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    Question Creative vacation project idea?

    Hi all,

    I'm glad to be writing my first post in these great forums.
    We've just finish exams and looking for an idea for a project to be working on this vacation. We're about 20 students all new-commers to java and want to improve our self-learning and teamwork skills.

    So we need something big enough to split up on all of us, innovating and creative enough to not to make us get bored quickly and with clear concept for us to be able to finish in 3 weeks for as I said we are just beginners.

    Sorry for my bad Englich...
    And thanks in advance.


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    Default Re: Creative vacation project idea?

    If you're all beginners in Java, I wouldn't recommend trying to coordinate something between 20 different people. That's hard by itself, let alone while simultaneously trying to learn a programming language.

    Instead, perhaps you should have a contest- see who can get through the most Project Euler questions (see: Project Euler). Or look for other programming contests you could enter, possibly in small teams.
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    Hello MGhareeb.

    Welcome to the Java Programming Forums. Thank you for the compliment

    Finding a project that all 20 students can work on together may be tough!!

    Have you learnt about Java Swing? Maybe you could work on a simple game together then each of you could create a level for it.
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    @KevinWorkman
    I agree that 20 is too much but it's just initial. All of us want to work on something during the vacation. It mustn't be all of us together we can divide. But I'm just asking if a group of beginners have 3 weeks to work on something and not get bored or confused with its complexity what should it be?
    I've seen many people recommending project Euler but I think - and I'm just a beginner - that it's too boring to be only working with numbers and calculations. That's why our first thought of this project was a game but we don't want to just mimic something that is already out there.

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    Yes, I know that 20 is too much again...
    We're interested in gaming but we want to make something new. Is that possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MGhareeb View Post
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    Yes, I know that 20 is too much again...
    We're interested in gaming but we want to make something new. Is that possible.
    Of course it's possible! You'll need to user your imagination
    Either that or you can take an already established game idea and expand on it.
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    I think you're biting off more than you can chew. Have you ever developed a game before? An original one? Have you ever worked in a team before?

    I really recommend you work individually or in very small teams at this level. And I really recommend that you stick with simple games: tic tac toe or connect 4, something very familiar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinWorkman View Post
    I think you're biting off more than you can chew. Have you ever developed a game before? An original one? Have you ever worked in a team before?

    I really recommend you work individually or in very small teams at this level. And I really recommend that you stick with simple games: tic tac toe or connect 4, something very familiar.
    Agreed.

    This will give you an idea of what is involved - Advanced Java:Tutorial - Tic-Tac-Toe
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    I guess you don't like the answers you received here?

    Crossposted: 3-week vacation creative project - Java Forums
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    You guys could create some sort of gaming application with several basic graphics games. You can split up the 20 (or however many) people into different groups, where each group is responsible for their individual game. Instead of dealing with all the network aspects of human vs human playing, you guys may be more interested in developing some sort of AI for each game and the user would play against a computer. Once each group is done with their game, you can combine them all onto some sort of application where the user can choose which game they want to play.

    By "basic graphics games" I'm referring to tic-tac-toe, chess, checkers, card games, board game, ect.

    That is something that would be fairly large, but still possible. You guys would learn a lot about the graphical aspect of displaying images and other elements, turn-based programming, developing low-level AI, and game managing. With some level of work and research, a first year programmer should have the basic knowledge to accomplish most of this through trial and error.
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    @JavaPF
    Thanks, but I figured out that my imagination isn't that rich. I've been thinking of an idea for this project but never come up with something that extraordinary. That's why I'm asking you guys here.
    And about expanding on idea, I find myself good at this but again we come back to the same point what idea?

    @KevinWorkman
    Yes, I did. Once actually in a group of two. And yes, it was a connect-4.
    About the cross-posting, is something wrong with that? I just wanted to hear as much ideas as I could.
    Sorry, if I bothered you...

    @aussiemcgr
    Thanks a million, I kinda like what you suggested. All of us would be working on the same project, there'll be more than one game which means more than one idea so it's no problem if one of them is a typical match to a one that already exists and we'll learn lots of stuff.


    Feel free to post about anything that comes to your mind. We may give credit to the one who gave us the idea.

    Thanks again everyone. Except KevinWorkman...

    Just kidding...

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    Cross posting causes a few issues. Please read - Cross Posting Forum Rules

    Kevin was just pointing out what the moderators would have
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    Quote Originally Posted by MGhareeb View Post
    About the cross-posting, is something wrong with that? I just wanted to hear as much ideas as I could.
    Sorry, if I bothered you....
    To add to JavaPF's post, see Why crossposting is frowned upon

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    Ok
    Now, I feel sooo dumb.
    Who came up with these rules anyway?

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    The issue of cross posting is a big problem for all forums and different forums handle the issue in different ways.
    Some forums say no cross posting what so ever, where as we allow cross posting, just as long as it's reported in the thread.

    If you read the link provided by copeg, The problems with cross-posting, you should start to understand how it can be a disadvantage.

    You come to a forum to ask for help. If you want quality response then you need to follow forum etiquette. The people who are willing to help, don't want to have to waste their time answering a question that has already been answered somewhere else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MGhareeb View Post

    Ok
    Now, I feel sooo dumb.
    Who came up with these rules anyway?
    Nobody, in the same way that nobody came up with the "rule" that you should say "excuse me" when you bump into somebody while walking down the sidewalk.

    It's basic, common courtesy and politeness. You've been given several links that explain the logic behind it, but let me put it this way: I tend to not help crossposters, simply because I have no idea what help they've received elsewhere. If you posted on one other forum, chances are you posted on about 15 other forums as well, and I have no idea whether you are still looking for an answer or have found one hours or days ago.

    Taking that into consideration, crossposting also tells me that you don't really care whether I waste my time answering a question you already had answered at some other forum- which means that you think your time is more valuable than my time, or that your question is more important than the other questions being asked- which is extremely rude and disrespectful.

    That being said, you should notice that I never said you broke any rules (of this forum anyway). I didn't make a big deal out of it, I simply pointed out the other answers you were receiving, so that other people wouldn't have to waste their time repeating answers you were receiving elsewhere.

    So you can thank everybody else "except me" all you want. But part of your goal should be making people want to answer your questions, shouldn't it?
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