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Thread: Article: When *Not* to Use an IDE

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    Default Re: Article: When *Not* to Use an IDE

    You know sometimes either because you're assignment only allows like Exceed on Demand or Unix, or whatever, or your corporation only uses command prompt like or UNIX like stuff and some companies probably use proprietary software, including perhaps, maybe, especially in the case of Microsoft or Sun, the software that helps makes software.

    Also, Eclipse IDE does not work with C/C++. I've tried it and unless the latest version, haven't downloaded it in a while I'll admit, has changed that, don't even bother for C/C++ programs.

    JGrasp should work, though it's a lower-tech IDE than Eclipse, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to get it to import the command for g++ and/or make
    (Also, I have to do makefiles as JGrasp won't do them for you (for C/C++) or any other language. It will for Java. At least I believe so.

    jGRASP Home Page

    It appears Netbeams, which I've never used before and am downloading now, can use all of these.

    Again, some companies don't use or have installed Eclipse, JGrasp, BlueJ, or NetBeams on their computers, or don't use them in their software design, as my instructor had told me.

    NetBeans IDE - C and C++ Development


    I know for command prompt, at least on UNIX, it's

    javac FileName.java
    and then after that goes through it's

    java FileName

    and for C++ I think it's

    g++ FileName.cpp
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    I am the inexperienced programmer and I have been using Net Beans since day one. What I like about NetBeans is that it automatically catches my errors, so when I am about to compile my program it has already caught all my silly errors. For example, misspelling, unclosed brackets, and no semi colons for starters.

    Your saying that I should get rid of those wonderful features that NetBeans provides and crawl before I walk and in the long run it will pay me dividends?

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: Article: When *Not* to Use an IDE

    Quote Originally Posted by loui345 View Post
    I am the inexperienced programmer and I have been using Net Beans since day one. What I like about NetBeans is that it automatically catches my errors, so when I am about to compile my program it has already caught all my silly errors. For example, misspelling, unclosed brackets, and no semi colons for starters.

    Your saying that I should get rid of those wonderful features that NetBeans provides and crawl before I walk and in the long run it will pay me dividends?

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    I think it's better to find out the error by yourself.

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    Default Re: Article: When *Not* to Use an IDE

    The IDE "protects" from having to learn fully about some things such as packages. My own experience has been that without this knowledge, I some greater difficulty learning and implementing more advanced Java programming such as using JNI. I think it's a good idea to avoid an IDE at least for a few weeks.

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    Default Re: Article: When *Not* to Use an IDE

    Quote Originally Posted by Javor View Post
    I think it's better to find out the error by yourself.
    man,goog luck.

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    I started coding just about sometime in July of last year. I was informed about things like dreamweaver for XHTML and the CSS families, Netbeans for java and other OO languages and id be damned to say I didn't rush to install them. I loved netbeans and I still do (I think I speak for eclipse as well-since I have it installed but I rarely use it. not that its bad, it just seems to heavy for my computer for the moment). Anyway, while using netbeans I was really happy up until August-September period when I discovered I could code with notepad and compile on my cmd. I ventured into it, scared out of my pants, but one month down the line, I realized one thing, I no longer make semi-colon and hanging-braces kind of mistakes at least not as heavily as I used to when netbeans was correcting them for me. All I can say is growing up as a coder (im in just under one year of coding), I think you really pick up on valuable things whilst making those mistakes that netbeans and various othe IDEs protect you from. Oh and I had made dozens of GUIs using Netbeans and I was really happy to see them work but it wasn't until I got to type out the command "JFrame" and the likes for the first time that I really understood what I was doing. For a designer, relying on IDEs is okay but if you ever want to be a solid Developer, then you will have to give up that IDE and get your hands dirty for at least a year, or two or preferably six as it has been well addressed in this article. (oh and by the way, I finished up on html and css with nothing but notepad++ and now I can put up a website faster than someone can find the linking command in dreamweaver)