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    Default Making a web site in Java

    This might make me look pretty silly but I was curious if there was a way to make a dynamic web page in java. Basically only using pure Java, with only HTML5, CSS and mySQL.


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    Default Re: Making a web site in Java

    A website usually consists of 2 sides, the server and the client code.
    Today most servers are actually written in pure java. But the client code, that is what is being transported over the internet, is written in a combination of HTML, CSS, javascript, php, ruby, etc.
    If you also want the client code to be java you could try out jsp's or jsf's, or creating a java applet embedded in a HTML site.

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    Default Re: Making a web site in Java

    There are two sides to a website:

    The front-end: This is the html, css, and javascript that you see.

    The server-side: This is the code that runs on the server that does stuff like connect to databases, *serve* data to the frontend to make pages dynamic, etc.

    You can write the server side in JavaEE. In fact that's one of the main uses of Java. Google is your friend.
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    Thank you. Learning JavaEE next. Just glad I can do this all in one place. I just want to use JavaEE, mySQl for back-end, and HTML, CSS for front-end. I learned PHP but forgot a lot of it and been really focusing on Java SE and keeping my C++ knowledge relevant while I finish school. I don’t really want to use ruby or PHP, is it essential that I incorporate them into the site?

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    Default Re: Making a web site in Java

    Quote Originally Posted by jocdrew21 View Post
    I don’t really want to use ruby or PHP, is it essential that I incorporate them into the site?
    Nope.
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    Default Re: Making a web site in Java

    Scripting languages like ruby, php, javascript, etc are almost all interchangeable. You are *probably* going to need at least one of them, otherwise your websites wont feel very "dynamic" (which is what people like nowadays apparently), but it is not at all necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornix View Post
    You are *probably* going to need at least one of them, otherwise your websites wont feel very "dynamic" (which is what people like nowadays apparently), but it is not at all necessary.
    The word "dynamic" is one of those words that's thrown around so much that it doesn't have any actual meaning anymore.

    One use of the word (and the way I took it) when referring to a "dynamic webpage" is a webpage whose data depends on something from the server. Compare that to a "static webpage" that always shows the same data no matter who is logged in, what time it is, etc.

    You can create that kind of dynamic webpage without any fancy graphics or scripting languages.
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    Yes, thats true.

    The way I meant it was less of the computer science definition and more of the user experience definition. The user wants to see some flashy effects, moving parts, translucency changes, color changes, and all that fancy bs that nobody really needs but everybody suddenly wants.

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    Default Re: Making a web site in Java

    CSS does something javascript does and the less javascript I use the better. Now every browser works well with javascript. So are as moving parts and making it more flashy i could always through in some abobe flash correct?

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    CSS does something javascript does and the less javascript I use the better. Now every browser works well with javascript. So are as moving parts and making it more flashy i could always through in some abobe flash correct?
    Not really. Flash is on its way out, and html5, css, and javascript are the standard frontend "languages" as they have the most cross-platform support (think mobile devices here).

    What exactly is your end goal? I would argue that it's best to not worry about flashy animations and whatnot until you have the basic server/client communication working.
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    Default Re: Making a web site in Java

    What exactly is your end goal? I would argue that it's best to not worry about flashy animations and whatnot until you have the basic server/client communication working.
    End goal is to have a easy to use website, one that I can put my projects on. For example lets say a employer is reading my CV and I list this page. They can go to it and have an idea of who I am, what I am working on and be able to have a quick assessment without wasting their time.

    Found some really neat JavaEE clips and just bought a book. Hopefully it is not a huge learning curve because I have a lot on my plate. I am self studying SAP back end and OSGI for a up coming internship plus writing my thesis with project for my capstone and taking two other 4 level classes. I work 14 hours a day on top of this with a family.

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    Default Re: Making a web site in Java

    Quote Originally Posted by jocdrew21 View Post
    End goal is to have a easy to use website, one that I can put my projects on. For example lets say a employer is reading my CV and I list this page. They can go to it and have an idea of who I am, what I am working on and be able to have a quick assessment without wasting their time.
    Then honestly, it might be better to just start with static html and css. It doesn't sound like you have any use for a server (other than to host your files), and all you really need is a collection of webpages that contain some static content.

    You can always start with static pages and then convert them to something more dynamic once you have a need.
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    Default Re: Making a web site in Java

    Quote Originally Posted by jocdrew21 View Post
    End goal is to have a easy to use website, one that I can put my projects on. For example lets say a employer is reading my CV and I list this page. They can go to it and have an idea of who I am, what I am working on and be able to have a quick assessment without wasting their time.
    While it might be nice to showcase your Java servlet experience with a home-grown web app, if the aim is to showcase your projects, then this is exactly what folks are using GitHub for.

    Java web apps are subtle and quick to anger, and rolling your own is not adding content to your web presence. Employers want to see evidence of flexible thinking, problem solving and the ability to complete projects that scratch an itch you have. So, being able to see the history of changes and wiki-style notes is more important than saying you built a web app to... display the web app.

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    Default Re: Making a web site in Java

    You have a point there.

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